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New signing for the last few championship games

https://edgbaston.com/news/warwickshire-county-cricket-club-sign-young-for-remainder-of-county-championship-season/

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He seems to have been around a long time. Its almost as though he's 'evergreen'

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Interesting.

Feel like he'll take Mousley's place at 3 which is probably a little bit harsh after making 69 and 75 in his 2 most recent CC innings.

Maybe he opens.

Not played a huge amount of cricket this year...

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Not really the area I'd have looked to strengthen. Desperately need a pace bowler in the CC. Suppose Booth helps here.

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If he's not already on his way from New Zealand, I guess he'll have to leave right now.

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Enjoying the posts!

Must confess I’m much more concerned about the Surrey match than the T20 quarterfinal.

Possibly because we are still playing under that Bears nonsense!

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Never mind the championship, have we got an overseas top order replacement for Latham for the big T20 quarter final coming up?

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No, can only play overseas who have played in the group phases? It's just bad luck Latham got injured otherwise he'd have been coming back.

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Enjoying the posts!

Must confess I’m much more concerned about the Surrey match than the T20 quarterfinal.

Possibly because we are still playing under that Bears nonsense!

seriously, what difference does it make? Warwickshire Bears, Birmingham Bears, The Bears, nobody got the wrong idea, nobody was confused that it wasn't the same club all along. Same players, same ground, what's the big deal?

I'm sure you know enough to know there was a very concrete reason the name was changed in the first place, and the lovely Big New Stand and pavilion you probably sit in every game is the result of it- and we wouldn't have that pavilion and big new stand without BCC getting their pound of flesh in return, which was that the name had to include 'Birmingham', I imagine you're aware of this? you didn't like the change to Birmingham Bears? should we have stuck with that ancient, embarassing old stand whilst all the other test grounds modernised and left us behind, and maybe lost our test status, didn't become the default home for Finals Day and all the income that comes to the club from those things? If they had changed to the Birmingham Superchargers I could understand it but for goodness sake, we are the Bears. 'come on you Bears', 'yooooooooooo Be-ears'.

First people were up in arms when we became 'Birmingham Bears', now they take away the 'Birmingham' that annoyed so many people and there's still whining about it. I couldn't GAF about team names I just want to watch cricket.

Do you actually like watching cricket? Do you like the players that you watch every week in the CC? You see club hero Sam Hain, maybe with a chance to finally win a T20 trophy after a decade with us carrying the t20 team on his back, but now if we win his success and that of his teammates, many of whom you watch in the CC, would mean nothing to you, just because they are called 'The Bears'?

Cricket fans must be the only sporting demographic I have ever encountered who actively seek reasons not to watch their own sport.

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As Warwickshire's oldest member said, "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet."

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I always hated being called Birmingham Bears but Bears is better and I think eventually we will be called Warwickshire Bears which isn't too bad. As for the pavilion, it isn't really that popular, massively cold at times (It has been called the 'Icebox' for a while), which is why so many people (Mostly members), sit at the opposite end. It is functional but I would have preferred something a bit more aesthetically pleasing to the eye. When we won the title in 2021, there were not many in there and 80% of people were over the other side.

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paulbear wrote:

I always hated being called Birmingham Bears but Bears is better and I think eventually we will be called Warwickshire Bears which isn't too bad. As for the pavilion, it isn't really that popular, massively cold at times (It has been called the 'Icebox' for a while), which is why so many people (Mostly members), sit at the opposite end. It is functional but I would have preferred something a bit more aesthetically pleasing to the eye. When we won the title in 2021, there were not many in there and 80% of people were over the other side.

I much prefer the atmosphere in the Wyatt. I find the fans to be more knowledgeable in there too, myself.

the point still stands, no Big New Stand = likely no test status or finals day and all that come with them

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paulbear wrote:

I always hated being called Birmingham Bears but Bears is better and I think eventually we will be called Warwickshire Bears which isn't too bad. As for the pavilion, it isn't really that popular, massively cold at times (It has been called the 'Icebox' for a while), which is why so many people (Mostly members), sit at the opposite end. It is functional but I would have preferred something a bit more aesthetically pleasing to the eye. When we won the title in 2021, there were not many in there and 80% of people were over the other side.

It didn’t replace one stand either it replaced several stands.

I am proud to be from Warwickshire and want to see my county play as Warwickshire. None of the other counties would put up with this nonsense.

We are the only team in world sport who don’t play under our own name. It’s ridiculous.

So no I won’t bother with T20 until we play as Warwickshire again and I’m far from alone in that. Its such an easy PR and marketing win for the Club I don’t know why we don’t just revert instead of looking so odd when listed with all the other counties!

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to say the least I think you over-estimate the supposed PR and marketing benefits of a reversion back to Warwickshire, but I'm sure the proof will be in the pudding when attendances skyrocket from all the fans newly engaged by the excitement of a name change and we're suddenly pushing 20,000 a game because of their intense connection to the concept of Warwickshire.

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Yep we’re getting really great crowds since we reverted to Birmingham Bears and now Bears.

And lots of people from Nuneaton, Coventry, Leamington, Kenilworth, Stratford, Rugby, et al etc feel really engaged and enthusiastic.

If you can’t see the PR value as playing as the name our Club is actually called and as the county it represents and the name is has had throughout its history since 1882 then I am absolutely amazed but it takes all sorts I suppose.

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BosworthBear wrote:

Yep we’re getting really great crowds since we reverted to Birmingham Bears and now Bears.

feel free to show how the attendance dropped as a result of the change while you're building your strawman

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I don’t need to build any straw men.

I’m from Warwickshire. I support Warwickshire as four previous generations did. I know the history of my County Club and I understand the value of heritage and branding professionally and personally.

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I don't want to interrupt a little debate, but the Birmingham / Warwickshire thing and two potential reasons behind it...

i) Wasn't it partly done as per a package of things to curry favour with Birmingham Council when they effectively paid for the ground works? and partly ii) as a positioning exercise ahead what became the 100? 'Look here ECB, we're already a city-based franchise, we can just take one franchise on already, we're ready now.'

Either way, I don't think it was ever designed to disenfranchise or enfranchise one set of supporters. Just political. I never took any notice, but I suppose I'm from Moseley so I wouldn't mind.