paulbear wrote:
Never rated Mills, there are plenty of bowlers who are in the 8.50 per over bracket,
there aren't many with a T20 strike rate of 15.3 (English domestic), to be fair. thats 2 better than Danny Briggs, for example.
paulbear wrote:
Never rated Mills, there are plenty of bowlers who are in the 8.50 per over bracket,
there aren't many with a T20 strike rate of 15.3 (English domestic), to be fair. thats 2 better than Danny Briggs, for example.
GerryShedd wrote:
paulbear wrote:
Never rated Mills, there are plenty of bowlers who are in the 8.50 per over bracket, he's just a name that got thrown about like Chris Jordan but they have not really won trophies with all the different franchise side they played for, Jordan was the reason England lost that T20 semi-final in about 2021 v New Zealand with a terrible last over and he definitely cost Sussex the T20 final when Worcestershire won it by spraying it everywhere in the 'Death' overs. Hard Hitters, Clive Lloyd was a real blaster, his 2 innings in the 1972 Gillette Cup Final (Damn Him) and the 1975 World Cup Final were full of shots where the ball hit the ropes before the bowler had finished following-through.
Agree about Clive Lloyd and those two innings - especially how he hit David Brown back to the pavilion fence in the 1972 innings. When he hit the ball into the crowd at mid-wicket in the 1975 match, John Arlott said it was effortless, "the stroke of a man knocking a thistle top off with a walking stick."
apparently Arlott pinched that phrase from a cricket book of the 1920s or something
ITE7376 wrote:
GerryShedd wrote:
paulbear wrote:
Never rated Mills, there are plenty of bowlers who are in the 8.50 per over bracket, he's just a name that got thrown about like Chris Jordan but they have not really won trophies with all the different franchise side they played for, Jordan was the reason England lost that T20 semi-final in about 2021 v New Zealand with a terrible last over and he definitely cost Sussex the T20 final when Worcestershire won it by spraying it everywhere in the 'Death' overs. Hard Hitters, Clive Lloyd was a real blaster, his 2 innings in the 1972 Gillette Cup Final (Damn Him) and the 1975 World Cup Final were full of shots where the ball hit the ropes before the bowler had finished following-through.
Agree about Clive Lloyd and those two innings - especially how he hit David Brown back to the pavilion fence in the 1972 innings. When he hit the ball into the crowd at mid-wicket in the 1975 match, John Arlott said it was effortless, "the stroke of a man knocking a thistle top off with a walking stick."
apparently Arlott pinched that phrase from a cricket book of the 1920s or something
I often wondered whether Arlott's 'bon mots' were spontaneous or rehearsed; but I've never read or heard that they may have been "borrowed" - though it could well be so.
GerryShedd wrote:
ITE7376 wrote:
GerryShedd wrote:
paulbear wrote:
Never rated Mills, there are plenty of bowlers who are in the 8.50 per over bracket, he's just a name that got thrown about like Chris Jordan but they have not really won trophies with all the different franchise side they played for, Jordan was the reason England lost that T20 semi-final in about 2021 v New Zealand with a terrible last over and he definitely cost Sussex the T20 final when Worcestershire won it by spraying it everywhere in the 'Death' overs. Hard Hitters, Clive Lloyd was a real blaster, his 2 innings in the 1972 Gillette Cup Final (Damn Him) and the 1975 World Cup Final were full of shots where the ball hit the ropes before the bowler had finished following-through.
Agree about Clive Lloyd and those two innings - especially how he hit David Brown back to the pavilion fence in the 1972 innings. When he hit the ball into the crowd at mid-wicket in the 1975 match, John Arlott said it was effortless, "the stroke of a man knocking a thistle top off with a walking stick."
apparently Arlott pinched that phrase from a cricket book of the 1920s or something
I often wondered whether Arlott's 'bon mots' were spontaneous or rehearsed; but I've never read or heard that they may have been "borrowed" - though it could well be so.
I heard it on a TMS lunchtime chat, albeit, do please bear in mind I'm pretty sure it was the loathsome Norcross who said it and I'd normally rather swallow my own leg than listen to or take note of a word he says, anyway whoever did say it, cited the book itself, publication date and all.
We've drifted a long way from Bears v Sussex; and it looks as though the case against John Arlott is strong!
As for "loathsome Norcross", I have to confess that he's friends with my daughter. And though I've never met him, he did organise for all the TMS team to sign a copy of the book that my late colleague Dave Bullivant and I wrote - so he's not all bad.