Warwickshire CCC unofficial fans forum
bearsfans.org.uk
Member
Joined:
Posts: 2360

MalmesburyBear wrote:

Being wise after the event is rather easy.

This season we had one of best T20 squads in years - the team could have been:
Davis; Bethell; Webster; Hain; Mousley; Barnard; Garton; Woakes; Thomson; Gleeson; Tariq.

Unfortunately Davis’ form fell off a cliff, Garton was injured and Bethell/ Mousley/ Gleeson were playing elsewhere through little fault of our own.

I know there are names in the team that various posters dislike, but the simple fact is that they are (or have been) regular participants in international or national T20 competitions.

With regard to the 50 over competition the loss of Barnard and Hain in the batting and Booth and Gilchrist in the bowling has knocked a big hole in the team, along with Taz losing his form. However, letting Hamzha leave early seems a bit of an own goal, as does the failure to recruit an overseas, knowing that Booth was injured.

I join the despair at the lack of information from the club regarding availability of players - who knows the fitness status of half a dozen of our players? When will Garton be able to bowl? What has happened to Barker? When will Booth, Gilchrist and Simmons be fit? Are Lintott and Wylie dropped or playing? Who knows…….

Absolutely. Just look at how the T20 form picked up once Mousley and Gleeson came back, won 6 out of 7.

Member
Joined:
Posts: 2360

Highveld wrote:

We need to be careful and not put the blame on the wrong person.

It is not the fault of a coach if a player failed to perform by bowling totally the wrong line and length that was discussed in the pre game meetings, or a batsman consistantly gets out by playing totally inappropriate shots for the ball faced and the game situation.

Players have to take responsibility for their actions, and take onboard guidance from their coaches.

I'd suggest there needs to be a cleaar out at the end of the season, only keeping players who are a established first team players, or have the potential to develop into a regular first team player. This included taking into account the age of the player and their availability.

If you look at counties like somerset and Worcestershire, they have a squad filled with younger players and very few over 30, that is not the case with Warwicks.

there are a small number of exceptions, but if a player is in their mid 20's and they have failed to establish themself as a regular first team player, especially when they have been involved in pro cricket for 8-10 years, you have to ask if it is ever likely to happen.

That's fair.

Member
Joined:
Posts: 1358

Thank you @Andy

We potentially have some good young players who are deserving of Rookie contracts eg Isaac Maddy, Dandy, Ed Millar, Jake Garlick

I'd also be looking at players who have become free agents like George Thomas, and maybe at some of the top young B'ham league players who are playing National Counties cricket, Jack Warner of Barnt Green s & Reeve Evitts of Wolverhampton are two that are worth looking at.

Member
Joined:
Posts: 298

MalmesburyBear wrote:

Being wise after the event is rather easy.

This season we had one of best T20 squads in years - the team could have been:
Davis; Bethell; Webster; Hain; Mousley; Barnard; Garton; Woakes; Thomson; Gleeson; Tariq.

Unfortunately Davis’ form fell off a cliff, Garton was injured and Bethell/ Mousley/ Gleeson were playing elsewhere through little fault of our own.

I know there are names in the team that various posters dislike, but the simple fact is that they are (or have been) regular participants in international or national T20 competitions.

With regard to the 50 over competition the loss of Barnard and Hain in the batting and Booth and Gilchrist in the bowling has knocked a big hole in the team, along with Taz losing his form. However, letting Hamzha leave early seems a bit of an own goal, as does the failure to recruit an overseas, knowing that Booth was injured.

I join the despair at the lack of information from the club regarding availability of players - who knows the fitness status of half a dozen of our players? When will Garton be able to bowl? What has happened to Barker? When will Booth, Gilchrist and Simmons be fit? Are Lintott and Wylie dropped or playing? Who knows…….


excellent post IMO