I wish him well but if we're struggling early season and he's not making runs this could get awkward quickly. Wonder if he drops down the order?

Finishes 35* batting no.5 at the end of Day 1 on his first class debut for England Lions.

Think he might have been referring to the treatment of Sam Hain generally and him making 80 odd in an England win last summer v Ireland, playing 1 more game, then not being selected for the tour of the West Indies?

Dropped

Another duck. That's three now. County cricketers are dominating this BBL which makes Hain's struggles all the more frustrating. Today's dismissal was an outrageous looking shot.

We'd better not be.

Made 54 this morning batting at number 3 as Bayswater-Morley chased 241 to beat Midland-Guildford by 3 wickets in Western Australia Grade Competition. Liam Trevaskis was playing for M-G.

The_Lickey_Banker wrote:

Sam has been recalled - against Melbourne Renegades today. I don't know if he's been given another chance, or there's been an injury. Just hope he gets a score now.

He mentioned something about a hamstring injury in his MoM interview.

He's looked absolutely woeful.

I don't think Woakes will bowl a ball for us next season. IPL, then iT20's v PAK, then T20 WC, then 6 Test matches. That's him from March til mid September. We ain't seeing him. Can't see the likes of Atkinson (looks a very average bowler in my opinion right now) forcing him out the T20 side.

Hope I'm wrong of course.

Andy wrote:

Several first division counties were interested in him. He'll do well down there and I think this could come back to bite us.

Yes many home grown players have left in the past 2 or 3 seasons. We're just not a county where young players come through and do well regularly. They dont always get proper chances. Particularly the bowlers. I mean Craig Miles got given a 3 year deal last year. Michael Booth is only a year younger than Henry but has been given a 3 year deal. Its an odd one. I'm not sure on Garton either to be honest. None of this is a good look.

July last season summed it up for Henry, was outstanding in the quarter final v Essex, dragged us back in it with some economical bowling in the middle overs. Then played away at Kent, got a few wickets, made a half century, we won. A week later v Lancs at home he's dropped in favour of Mir Hamza (who looked pretty average) and you saw his confidence ebb away. I actually thought he was decent in the ODC. 4day match away at Surrey was poor though.

It's interesting Middlesex showed firm interest, he played at home v them last season and bowled really well without luck. He was pretty hostile and looked like he'd got a yard back that week.

Leaves us with a bit of an ageing seam attack and there is absolutely nothing coming through the age groups and academy seam bowler wise. I'd have thought he was worth keeping another couple of years then, aged 26, if he's not nailed down a regular place we could have moved him on.

I've said it before, 24 year old OHD didn't exactly look brilliant did he....

I'm standing by this.

Glad to see this, his such a good young player who's definitely worth investing in.

I think this is a good appointment, hes been through a lot and certainly has a lot of lived experience as a cricketer. He's absolutely done a player though, past 2 seasons he looked as toothless a spinner as we've seen.

Just noticed he played for Team Abu Dhabi in the Abu Dhabi T10 tournament today. Opened the bowling and ended 1 for 14 from 2 overs, an excellent caught and bowled and was dismissed for a 2nd ball duck by a Dwayne Bravo slower ball.

Quick glance shows some big names competing in this tournament, should be good experience for him, though I'm not sure there is long left.

Kai Smith has also been playing. Think Benjamin and Henry B got a gig in it last year. Briggs played in it a couple of years back. Mo Ali is also in it. So to is Lintott.

Agreed.

Craig Miles played 7 CC games in 2022 and averaged 65 with just 11 wickets. He got a 3 year deal at the end of that season.

I'm really confused. We seem to be in a constant transitional phase with players coming and going every 2 or 3 seasons or so but the average age of the squad is getting older and older.

I do think playing 3 out of the 4 home ODC games is a bit much.

These outgrounds had better be good cricket wickets whilst offering adequate seating/viewing with good toilet facilities and serviceable parking...I'm still scarred by Rugby School...

Several first division counties were interested in him. He'll do well down there and I think this could come back to bite us.

Yes many home grown players have left in the past 2 or 3 seasons. We're just not a county where young players come through and do well regularly. They dont always get proper chances. Particularly the bowlers. I mean Craig Miles got given a 3 year deal last year. Michael Booth is only a year younger than Henry but has been given a 3 year deal. Its an odd one. I'm not sure on Garton either to be honest. None of this is a good look.

July last season summed it up for Henry, was outstanding in the quarter final v Essex, dragged us back in it with some economical bowling in the middle overs. Then played away at Kent, got a few wickets, made a half century, we won. A week later v Lancs at home he's dropped in favour of Mir Hamza (who looked pretty average) and you saw his confidence ebb away. I actually thought he was decent in the ODC. 4day match away at Surrey was poor though.

It's interesting Middlesex showed firm interest, he played at home v them last season and bowled really well without luck. He was pretty hostile and looked like he'd got a yard back that week.

Leaves us with a bit of an ageing seam attack and there is absolutely nothing coming through the age groups and academy seam bowler wise. I'd have thought he was worth keeping another couple of years then, aged 26, if he's not nailed down a regular place we could have moved him on.

I've said it before, 24 year old OHD didn't exactly look brilliant did he....

Thought they might have dipped their toe in with one, 3 is a big commitment.

Cheers

Are these definite?