ITE7376
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Devon_Bear wrote:
A disappointing result today, although we gave it a good go in the chase. Ultimately, Mousley's 2 overs for 31 cost us in the end.
A strange looking team selection today, with Yates batting at 6. He's hardly the type of player to come in and smash a few sixes about, is he? We'd be better off with Hassan Ali coming in at 6,
or Davies dropping down the order.
yeah, it seems pretty obvious if Yates is to play in T20 then really he needs to open
but then there would be two very similar openers, both left handed, neither being the quickest scorers.
I know Davies really obviously wants to open but I think his style of batting is clearly better suited to batting in the middle order than Yates
i wonder if the elephant in the room is that our best batsman Hain has never (other than his first season) opened. If you look at James Vince, ever since he established himself as the man at Hants, he opened, and it gave their best batsman the chance to face the maximum number of deliveries. It seems counter-intuitive that our best batsman seems to always either be under pressure to rebuild an innings with wickets down in the power play, or coming in with only 10 overs to go. Considering he almost always takes 10 balls to have a look and get going, if he comes in around 10 overs, he only needs his partner to hog the strike a bit too much and he's coming in to overs 15-20 having barely had time to knock himself in and potentially needing to go at 12/over.
personally it seems to me to have suited him better coming in 2 wickets down in the PP, at least it has given him plenty of time and he has rolled out dozens of big 8-+ innings under those circumstances.
On Mousley- his career SR has dropped as he has gone along it seems to me, and it seems to have coincided with playing him at 3. he seems very much boom or bust and seems to get stuck at the crease playing big shots and missing and allowing too many dots, he doesn't seem adept enough at rotating the strike. i thought he was a better number 5/6 than 3 to be honest.
Muyeye seems to get runs whenever I look at the Kent scorecard
GerryShedd wrote:
Alex Loudon who went out with Pippa Middleton but dumped her because his family said that she "isn't wife material".
ha indeed a man so posh the future queen's sister is too vulgar for him, great stuff
LeicesterExile wrote:
Newver been a fan of his since the way he left to join Worcs at the start of his career.
unless i am remembering wrong, at that time wasn't he behind the unlamented Alex Loudon in the pecking order? I could totally understand him leaving for better opportunities under those circumstances, I never saw a cricketer with the lazy arrogant body language of Loudon***, whose talent came a long way short of matching his own estimation of it.
*** entirely coincidentally Loudon was an Old Etonian, to say his body language in the field or running between the wickets was 'languid' would be an understatement
so, was the pitch that stood 800 runs a week ago suddenly a snakepit, or was it good bowling, or poor batting, or both, from both teams?
The victory last night showed we still have the same fundamental issues with the side, and the mediocre performances of some players.
Yet again Lintott and Hassan were very expensive, Lintotts 3rd over could have cost the game,
Lintott's first two overs were brilliant, though, he was virtually unhittable, i was right behind his arm he was getting vicious drift as well as looping flight, it looked very difficult for the batsman to judge where it would be pitching so i was actually encouraged by Lintott as he landed pretty much every one of his first 12 deliveries and even the poor over, it looked like he was just too full but at least he landed them. At his worst recently he has been sending drag downs down the leg side or full tosses on the stumps but most worryingly he started losing that real zip out of the hand that a leggie needs. he certainly didn't lack that in the first two overs last night.
well we will certainly miss his athletic and enthusiastic fielding
KingofSpain wrote:
Talking about optimism, Bethell should have a chat with McCullum and request to play tonight. He could jump in a car at lunch and be at Edgbaston in good time to play.
but how could he turn down the opportunity to wander around the boundary doing 12th man duties anyone else could do? SMH
KingofSpain wrote:
Bears preview
Same squad. No mention of Dicky Gleeson.
so Bethell is allowed to play in the CC but not the T20? what am I missing here? thanks England. FFS
I'm not sure where he is with availability right now, but I'd like to see Garton do some red ball. Might do him some good to just bowl without someone going after him every ball and he could definitely do a batting job at that tricky number 8 spot.
yeah I'd love to see him really given his head and told to just have a go with the new ball. Knowing his luck, it would be clear blue skies and a thankless task on a flat featherbed
Solbear wrote:
In fact it was a fruitful evening for former Bears with Will Rhodes - supposedly, a non-T20 player here - top scoring with 58no
not too much supposedly about it, he had 2 full seasons in the T20 team batting in a pivotal position at 3/4 and his record pretty much stunk. 2019-21 he had 35 games, averaged under 20, strike rate well under 130.
Hain scored more T20 runs in the 2024 campaign than Rhodes managed across 4 seasons.
I can see why they are loathe to bowl Garton at the death but when he has bowled good, either tight or threatening overs with the new ball, it seems madness to only give him one over and really stores up problems for us later in the innings. must be hell on his confidence to see other go at 15 and he only gets one over
oh, dear. on a personal level I will miss watching a class act in the flesh but i think his absence may well expose out bowling lineup, he has consistently got us out of jail the same way Jeetan used to.
he gets wickets but AFAIK his economy rate is pretty expensive
agreed that his lofty batting SR is likely a big part of why he is considered a sexy cricketer over-above someone like Barnard
when nailing yorkers consistently is 'getting away with it' i have to wonder if the players can't win with some people
good for him
given his diverse '3-dimensional' skillset, I can see a good amount of franchise cricket in Ethan's career
LeicesterExile wrote:
ITE7376 wrote:
Mo is a concern though, and I'm not sure if his heart is really still in it.
that has been a concern for me ever since his return.
Ever since his return he has looked to me as someone playing out the few years before retirement. I might be wrong but it's how his body language appears to me.
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s how i
On his first home game back for us I was just having a cig at the gap between south stand and Hollies, Alex Hales was just walking off and signing some autographs on his way off, smiling and chatting to the kids who approached him, and Moeen was walking just behind him. Without imposing on him at all I just quickly got his attention and said hi Moeen, and said how great it was to see him at Edgbaston, good luck. And nothing. No reply, not even an acknowledgement, not even a thumbs-up or any sign in his eyes he could give a ****. He looked totally dead behind the eyes, to be honest, just walked past. The contrast between his demeanour and engagement, and that of Hales, was night and day. Like someone said, just didn't look like he wanted to be there.
I felt regretful I didn't use the time making some kind of 'black dog' dig at Hales instead.
LeicesterExile wrote:
ITE7376 wrote:
Mo is a concern though, and I'm not sure if his heart is really still in it.
that has been a concern for me ever since his return.
Ever since his return he has looked to me as someone playing out the few years before retirement. I might be wrong but it's how his body language appears to me.
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s how i
On his first home game back for us I was just having a cig at the gap between south stand and Hollies, Alex Hales was just walking off and signing some autographs on his way off, smiling and chatting to the kids who approached him, and Moeen was walking just behind him. Without imposing on him at all I just quickly got his attention and said hi Moeen, and said how great it was to see him at Edgbaston, good luck. And nothing. No reply, not even an acknowledgement, not even a thumbs-up or any sign in his eyes he could give a ****. He looked totally dead behind the eyes, to be honest, just walked past. The contrast between his demeanour and engagement, and that of Hales, was night and day. Like someone said, just didn't look like he wanted to be there.
I felt regretful I didn't use the time making some kind of 'black dog' dig at Hales instead.
Mo is a concern though, and I'm not sure if his heart is really still in it.
that has been a concern for me ever since his return.
I was sat at the perfect angle behind Garton's arm, he was absolutely hooping the ball, no wonder they couldn't get a bat on him when he landed it right, really violent swing at a decent 80+mph pace. all of a sudden, a great cameo with the bat, a couple of very smart catches and a good spell with the ball, hopefully that will give him (and his captain) a lot of confidence going forward.
Davies played the kind of innings I had him marked down to play when we first signed him from Lancs, very very good at deflecting the ball square-ish. over his last two good innings at home I don't think he has scored anything down the ground at all, a six over cow is as straight as he has got. To me, for him the problem is against spin, he isn't the power player type to just smash them over cow or down the ground, and he hasn't really got the sweep/reverse sweep, so if he survives the power play he will need his partner to take the reins in terms of the scoring rate
perhaps not coincidentally Lathan was/seems to be much more aggressive vs spin than pace, so it is almost like they have that as a part of their plans, davies goes at the seamers and Latham at the spinners, as Latham has got both the reverse sweep and the big slog sweep in his locker.
nice bit of tactical clarity from either the players or management there, IMO.
agree Lintott really seems to be struggling to get his lines in particular right