I think Somerset will go down based on last season and that. We would've beaten them over four days, I'm pretty sure.

I'm hoping/assuming the extra bonus point we allowed them has no impact due to our loftier ambitions.

mad - I see what you're saying with the 'kids' but surely there's a point where have have to accept them (and readily) as first team players

It really does dampen enthusiasm for the upcoming season because it suggests the problems from last season (Davies ever presence, strange selections from Robinson etc.) will be here again this season.

As mentioned above Davies walks around like he owns the place already, and to me the way he has to direct at least one fielder in between every ball is an undermining of the captain.

Not happy with this at all.

Any scorecards available for these two games, or just the reports?

Would just like to add my thanks to the effort that goes into running this forum. Massively appreciate it!

I remember we played against Yorkshire a few years back in the T20's and he did absolutely nothing for them.

So although he will be good in the sense he should get a few more bums on seats, I agree we should await his contribution.

Maybe we will benefit from the batting points change on the basis we will still be scoring nil but other teams will be scoring less!

Not unhappy with this - we've struggled with the ball in all formats at all levels.

Need to get a decent appointment in now.

The most joyous moment of the season!

Sensational from Norwell

Well we've pretty much ensure there will be a result, barring any delays!

14 overs in 70 minutes. That's really not on - hope they get a suitable fine.

Hain is apparently struggling with injury.

They started on time after all that! Credit to ground staff for managing that

I work in Bournville and it has only just stopped raining, after having rained quite heavily overnight - I would therefore be surprised if they start on time

One good session, followed by two poor ones. Story of the season that we can't put good sessions back to back

Has anyone been to the ground? I live in Digbeth and it hasn't rained here since the scheduled start time

I'd bring in Lamb for Bethell and Burgess for Yates.

As poor as Davies has been the rest of the season, he has to stay in the side for his knock in the second innings.

Assuming Siraj won't be available again, I would bring Johal in on the basis Sidebottom and Garrett are both out of contract, and neither should be renewed imo, so may as well give the lad who will be here next year a game.

30-4. If there was ever a start needed to win this game, that was it!

We've batted poorly but there have been some shockers from the umpires here.

• Yadav didn't look to have hit it
• Davies was either outside the line if it hit leg (boot) first or hit it first
• Brookes was nowhere near that one and umpire took ages

Think there was another one someone was unhappy with as well

This could all be completely academic couldn't it?

If one of us and Gloucestershire (or even both but unlikely) stay up, they will finish 7th or 8th - which would then mean not finishing in the top 6 and presumably not being in Strauss's 'elite division'

Yeah, not a good look.

Poor performance overall this season and potentially less cricket next season. Should not equal a price increase imo.

Edit - The Gloucestershire commentator just said, under the new proposal there is potential for the number of days home cricket to be reduced from 39 to 25

The game could be over tonight at this rate!