Cricket Archive are now crediting Dan Mousley with a first-class hundred so have changed their mind about the status of his latest match.
Cricket Archive are now crediting Dan Mousley with a first-class hundred so have changed their mind about the status of his latest match.
And the official Warwickshire channels normally refer to the awful “red ball” so it’s good to seeing them recognise this as a first class hundred - presumably prompted by someone.
Dan Mousley is part of the England squad for the Hong Kong Sixes tournamet next weekend alongside former Bear Ethan Brookes.
Ed Barnard and Alex Davies played last year and it seems to have have been good for confidence for them last season.
https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-series/11122/hong-kong-sixes-2025/squads
Inside-edge wrote:
Decent for Dan - but why, oh why (and how?) did we ever let Ethan Brookes get away?! The most amazing 50, by the sound of it (and retired hurt), coupled with an outstanding bowling performance! Oh dear!
'The only great banker, is the Lickey Banker!'
Congrats Dan - named as captain for the Lions 50 over side next month.
ExiledBrummie wrote:
Congrats Dan - named as captain for the Lions 50 over side next month.
https://edgbaston.com/news/dan-mousley-to-lead-england-lions-in-five-odis/
_"You can take the boy out of Atherstone, but you can never take Atherstone out of the boy !"
"The Bears and the (footballing) Foxes for ever !" _
To captain the England Lions who play South Africa A later this month.
Yes, fairly strong Lions squad too.
Will miss the first 4 Blast matches.
it seems an odd choice, to me. I feel pretty confident in saying Dan Mousley is never playing test cricket for England, but then they haven't seriously been using the 'Lions' as a feeder for the test team in many many years. who needs stuff like that when you can pick people based on 90 second clips on youtube? #vibes
I guess they liked his leadership when he captained those white ball games? or maybe they like his #vibes
of course I am largely grumbling from a selfish perspective but i feel like the Bears' loss is very unlikely to translate into either Mousley's, or England's gain, in terms of him getting a place in either red or white ball teams.
Andy wrote:
Yes, fairly strong Lions squad too.
Will miss the first 4 Blast matches.
More, if he's also in the 50 over squad.
_"You can take the boy out of Atherstone, but you can never take Atherstone out of the boy !"
"The Bears and the (footballing) Foxes for ever !" _
Right OK didnt know they were playing List A fixtures too. Its mad that one of our most integral t20 players could miss literally half games like this.
Be interesting to find out what England's thoughts are re Mousley. I think it is fair to say he isn't expected to be an England test player so maybe the four day game is just for his leadership potential. Must be seen as a prospect for White Ball though and I think he fits in both senior squads, so you'd expect he is named in the limited overs Lions squads. Up until now (and still, maybe) I'd been supportive of our players in the Lions squads as it does elevate them and expose them to coaching and development higher up the pyramid. If he misses a whole block of the Blast for this, however, might reconsider that...
Must be seen as a prospect for White Ball though and I think he fits in both senior squads, so you'd expect he is named in the limited overs Lions squads.
honestly I don't think he's quite good enough, still time to develop though but I don't see that level of higher end potential in someone who'd played first class cricket for about 6 years/45 games before he got his maiden first class ton.
I mean if say Joe Clarke has never got a chance for England in any format, having significantly outperformed Mousley in all 3 formats both across his career right now, and at the same point in their respective careers, i just don't see it.
ITE7376 wrote:
Must be seen as a prospect for White Ball though and I think he fits in both senior squads, so you'd expect he is named in the limited overs Lions squads.
honestly I don't think he's quite good enough, still time to develop though but I don't see that level of higher end potential in someone who'd played first class cricket for about 6 years/45 games before he got his maiden first class ton.
I mean if say Joe Clarke has never got a chance for England in any format, having significantly outperformed Mousley in all 3 formats both across his career right now, and at the same point in their respective careers, i just don't see it.
I think Joe Clarke also didn’t get a chance because of his involvement in that rape trial a few years back. He was in the Lions squad at that point.
Exiled Bear wrote:
ITE7376 wrote:
Must be seen as a prospect for White Ball though and I think he fits in both senior squads, so you'd expect he is named in the limited overs Lions squads.
honestly I don't think he's quite good enough, still time to develop though but I don't see that level of higher end potential in someone who'd played first class cricket for about 6 years/45 games before he got his maiden first class ton.
I mean if say Joe Clarke has never got a chance for England in any format, having significantly outperformed Mousley in all 3 formats both across his career right now, and at the same point in their respective careers, i just don't see it.
I think Joe Clarke also didn’t get a chance because of his involvement in that rape trial a few years back. He was in the Lions squad at that point.
yeah that definitely would have put a spoke in the wheels of any aspirations he had, as I recall it he was looked at as a real prospect in his early days at Worcester. still, he's been a very consistent bordering prolific run-getter for over a decade now including the Big Bash.
I suppose a contrasting example would be ben Duckett who got his England chance relatively late in his career having shown a lot of promise early. As i recall it in his early years at Northants he had a better red ball record than Mousley, like 1000 runs in a a season sort of thing.
What rather obscures things with England is they don't pick England prospects on outputs. They pick on a load of intangible things like youth, potential, playing roles, leadership. In a word: #Vibes. Gets even more intangible when you think about the likes of Zak Crawley.
On outcomes, Mousley definitely isn't there. Neither was Bethell and he then got his first three top-flight centuries playing for England. Not saying Dan has the same potential, but I think England have identified something in him. Otherwise they wouldn't be picking him - even for the Lions.
Tayls79 wrote:
What rather obscures things with England is they don't pick England prospects on outputs. They pick on a load of intangible things like youth, potential, playing roles, leadership. In a word: #Vibes. Gets even more intangible when you think about the likes of Zak Crawley.
On outcomes, Mousley definitely isn't there. Neither was Bethell and he then got his first three top-flight centuries playing for England. Not saying Dan has the same potential, but I think England have identified something in him. Otherwise they wouldn't be picking him - even for the Lions.
oh, absolutely (although the mood music recently seems to suggest they have suddenly started taking county form seriously again), I even used the 'V' word myself in a post above
some they have got right, some much less so, my problem with the Crawley choice was probably more the amount of time they gave him than the choice itself, and I can totally see how, if you saw him in full flow on a good day, you'd fall in love with the idea of him.
Of course picking an offspinner with about 10 first class games under his belt, based on a 90 second youtube clip of him bowling at Alistair Cook, said offspinner having now had to pack his bags for Derby as he can't get in the Somerset team above England Reject Jack Leach, is probably the apogee of their whimsical, almost flippant approach to selection.
Not saying Dan has the same potential, but I think England have identified something in him
yeah I guess so, like you say he's pretty much always been less conspicuously brilliant than Bethell.
Has made scores of just 1 and 15 batting at 3 for England Lions.