BosworthBear
Member
Lickey_bear wrote:
Would be interested to know how the forum members rate winning T20 or ODI Cup over the championship.
Personally I go to as many blast and ODI games as possible, but the comp that matters is winning the championship, regardless of the cash involved.
Not interested in T20 until we play as Warwickshire again.
Passionate about the Championship.
Enjoying the one day cup games being played at Rugby which is a great development but unfortunately the Hundred has destroyed the one day cup as a showpiece these days.
So the Championship is the be all and end all for me!
I’m pleased with the position Somerset are taking and wish we could find the 6 more to block it but it’s in Somerset’s financial interests to keep the number of games because they don’t host the Hundred and get good attendances at CC and Blast.
I really hope we can hold an SGM and torpedo this!
Seemed to take us too long to get the spinners on.
A couple of wickets now so who knows.
Davies seems to play unthinking cricket by numbers!
Ha yes the dark ages! I do keep thinking about that but thought would be naughty to post!
Richard Bentley on County Cricket Matters Facebook page is also collecting signatures for Warwickshire
Highveld wrote:
Worcestershire have just posted this on their website, I thought it was informative and well balanced.
I love that they think they play Warwickshire in the Blast!
Thanks Terry for the summaries
Attendances have been awful at Edgbaston again. Pitch hasn’t helped.
I was told 600 Sunday and 400 Monday.
If we had enlightened leadership they’d take around the county but we don’t!
Out of interest was anybody at the members’ forum on Monday? I couldn’t make it.
If only he would try something funky. He seems to have no clue whatsoever. At one stage he simply ringed the boundary with fielders.
He also follows the ball which is the tell tale sign of a poor captain.
We seemed to have no direction out there on a used pitch with a kookaburra ball. The only hope was the Aussie spinner and he was today but not much more. Is Barnard carrying a knock. It was crying out for him to bowl!
Andy wrote:
That email from Stuart Cain we've had today, sounds as though our lot have accepted the reduction in the amount of games no matter what.
Apparently our Chair wants to become ECB Chair so I guess he’s pushing this as hard as he can!
Many counties have done a member survey of their own. Lancashire are giving members a vote on it. Surrey are voting against a reduction in CC games. Yorkshire need member consent before they can approve a reduction in CC games. Middlesex have a SGM on 26 June which will pass a resolution to oppose a reduction in CC games I expect. Glamorgan are having a SGM in the near future. Derbyshire are opposed to a reduction in CC as are Somerset.
Worth reading this for anyone attending on Monday
https://x.com/lancsccmg/status/1935785541410472124?s=46&t=1A7xfLJNUgdI6215TY6YlA
The option the membership committee have “picked” seems designed to kill off six counties!
The national organiser (Lancs and Surrey members) has been asking how many members Warwickshire have so may be planning something at some point, I think the last time the signatures were gained pretty quickly but weren’t needed because club and ECB backed down. Strauss Review then I think.
I think our lot are pretty apathetic these days (unlike the 80s) but if other counties hold SGMs I think we would be likely to!
GerryShedd wrote:
BosworthBear wrote:
Not going to revisit this at length and Norman certainly had the gift of the gab but I think this one just merits the Mandy Rice-Davies response.
Go on, if you've any facts that refute what he said, let's hear them.
Ok as I said I wasn’t going to revisit this but if I don’t respond you will say there is no case. So the most obvious retort is that off the top of my head Surrey, the MCC, Nottinghamshire, Lancashire and Yorkshire haven’t reformed their governance structure in this way and it hasn’t affected their ability to host major matches. If you look at Norman’s words in that interview most of it is BS to make a case for change. Not irrefutable facts. That’s not criticising your interview BTW it’s good you raised concerns at that time. I just don’t find the answers compelling or even direct responses to your questions TBH. Just blather which he was v good at!
I’m afraid it was a racket to separate Edgbaston. I had a drink with Giles Clarke when he was ECB Chair and he told me they had told Norman and Warwickshire not to rename the T20 side as Birmingham Bears because of the affect in heritage and branding, They ignored that!
As for the non execs there was one lady who served for years after appointment by Norman as a supposed expert on marketing and branding. To this day she still doesn’t understand WCCC.
I’m afraid Edgbaston (and the loan etc) just got too big and they felt they needed to take away directly accountable governance from Members.
I do think things have improved slightly under present Chair and CEO but there wasn’t a high bar!
Not going to revisit this at length and Norman certainly had the gift of the gab but I think this one just merits the Mandy Rice-Davies response.
Unfortunately members lost out when we accepted the constitutional changes a few years ago. It was a barely disguised attempt to separate Edgbaston from Warwickshire IMO.
The members committee is pretty pointless. Anybody interviewed to join has to commit to the Club’s strategic objectives. So it’s a bit of a fix.
We’ve now lost the direct link between holding the committee directly to account.
It’s concerning our chair seems to be heading the ECB efforts to reduce the county championship.
No doubt it will end up a fudge but I don’t think it will be difficult to get an SGM if the changes are too stringent,
The worry is that this is salami slicing and they’ll just keep on doing this until county cricket is right at the margins of the game.
Personally I’ve reached the point where I would like a formal split in the game between tradition cricket and franchise cricket.
And the official Warwickshire channels normally refer to the awful “red ball” so it’s good to seeing them recognise this as a first class hundred - presumably prompted by someone.
LeicesterExile wrote:
Trouble is most people in the country will wonder where the Bears come from!! Needs to go full circle and refer to Warwickshire Bears.
Indeed but at least now we’ve dropped Birmingham then the media should follow suit! Charles Dagnell just referenced our conversation on air and they’ve all stopped doing it now. Just need the BIR on the graphic changing too!
BosworthBear wrote:
I’m getting annoyed with Sky continually referring to us as Birmingham. I thought we’d dropped that nonsense!
I’ve now written tweets to every commentator using the B word and they do seem to have stopped! Although the graphic is still there!