Unfortunately I think we are currently the worst team in the division.

Anyway fingers crossed!

Warwickshire chasing 170 on that pitch was never a good deal whatever the circumstances.

As I say perhaps Northants were generous from their perspective but we were always likely to not succeed.

Still be happy to be surprised by these two!

Maybe "generous terms" from Northants but not a "good deal" for Warwickshire?

I think it was more people claiming "good deal" when really the only beneficiaries of any deal were Northamptonshire.

I'd understand it more if they'd said at least we will get some competitive cricket rather than petering out with a draw which was probably in Warwickshire's best interest.

Every ball on my stream has movement (unless I've got a dodgy screen ???)

The stats of the match don't lie. Its another overused turgid Edgbaston pitch as has been the case for the last two months,

Its not that its a bad deal per se its more that it was never particularly attractive for us batting last, batting poorly and on this wicket.

Perhaps i have a different view to everyone else but I always thought (knew) we would struggle.

I'll still be v happy if Barnard and Burgess put on a century partnership now.

Losing here would be a total embarrassment.

Winning from here would be more of a shock!

I did call it!

Which is the contradiction.

Poor batting side. Poor pitch. Runs on the board.

Not the deal of the century!

19-4 Sanderson hat trick

Not sure this was the ever the deal people were claiming!

19-3 - this is predictable!

I don't think it will be easy at all on this pitch.

Scoreboard pressure and all that.

This agreement rather revealing about what Will Rhodes thinks of the pitch!

I really hope lessons will be learned!

ajones1328 wrote:

Tayls79 wrote:

Anyone watching this live... Are they not tucking into the buffet? Or is the bowling of Burgess, Yates and seam-up Mousley just a bit too incisive? Guess we have to know what target they have in mind. More importantly, who was keeping to Burgess?

Rhodes keeping wicket. Very bizarre from Northants. I thought they would be looking to go 5+ an over minimum. Not much intent so far

I think rather than "cafeteria bowling" its more a case of whittling down the overs so Warwickshire have less when chasing the total.

Presumably because of another substandard Edgbaston wicket - four an over would be extremely challenging for us. I wonder if the agreement is les than that.

I hope the over use of Edgbaston will be raised at the agm.

I don't know how easy it would be to sort but Mickey Arthur and Ian Bell would come over like a shot!

I suppose we won’t know for sure until Hampshire bat but seems to be another of these Edgbaston wickets. Only Hain looked comfortable and even he’s had to adjust a bit!

I was just going to add that there was distant country as well as country membership.

The point of course was that WCCC belongs to all of our county but with Birmingham on its extreme western edge there ought to be some compensation for those whose attendance is not easy.

Even more in these days of not playing games around the county!

Bit of a strange one but I really don’t understand why they didn’t keep running on the last ball.

The keeper removed a bail after we had made the ground. He then ran off to celebrate. I really don’t see what was to stop us completing the second run.

Just been sent a pic from the ground. It’s another pitch on the extremity with a silly boundary.

Edgbaston is exhausted. All so avoidable!

We don’t need to replicate the Cheltenham Festival - what a ludicrous comparison!

We don’t need chefs, waiters, Michelin stars or any other bogus obstacle suggested.

We are talking about one day’s cricket not even a four day game at this stage.

It really wouldn’t cost much at all and numerous grounds would qualify but I would suggest higher population areas like Nuneaton and Coventry away from Birmingham would be best.

I’ve seen Warwickshire play at Whitgift, Beckenham, Maidstone, Tunbridge Wells, Guildford amongst others. It’s really not that difficult to set up seating, toilets, a beer tent, burgers and an ice cream van.

Some of the obstacles claimed are bizarre.

And to those talking about distance and transport - imagine what it’s like for some of us to travel to every match at Edgbaston.

As for Birmingham members not understanding the county concept. Of course it’s not all of them. The comment was in reply to Gerry who spoke about Notts members complaining about travelling. I said I’m sure we would get the same. There used to be one chap on the old forum - who came from Norfolk and actually lived in Worcestershire although he didn’t realise it - who obsessively complained about outgrounds because he had had to travel to Stratford. I’ve seen similar obstacle placing from Birmingham based members at the AGM. And obviously there’s a member on this forum coming up with all sorts of spurious excuses.

It’s a sad fact Birmingham has forgotten/lost its connection as being part of Warwickshire in a way Manchester and Leeds haven’t with Lancashire and Yorkshire even though the circumstances are identical.

Thanks guys - common sense at last in this discussion!

Let’s hope the will is there!

GerryShedd wrote:

I see that Surrey are playing at Guildford - capacity just 2,000 and no parking:
https://www.kiaoval.com/metro-bank-one-day-cup-surrey-v-lancashire-match-day-info-for-guildford-cc/
PS - Bosworth Bear, I'm glad I'm not the only one who confuses our groundsman with the lead singer of Take That.

Guildford's a very tight ground with a bog standard pavilion but I've enjoyed seeing Warwickshire win there especially in 2004.

And brilliant Gerry. I always try so hard not to do that. I will leave it there! The point remains valid though. There has simply been too much cricket at Edgbaston this year.

Exactly its all froth and nonsense about facilities. It is not rocket science.

Why not ask Glamorgan what Neath CC needed to provide?

I saw inside the dressing rooms on the social media feeds and they are smaller than the dressing rooms at Nuneaton and Cov and North Warwick.

Both grounds probably have more parking than Edgbaston offers these days.

Gary Barlow has made clear there are no more fresh wickets available at Edgbaston hence the low scoring matches in all forms of cricket. The square at Edgbaston is exhausted.

You can dress it up how you want to and try to sound as clever and well travelled as you want but it is patently obviously a matter of will and choice.

If WCCC want to take games around the County then they will.