BosworthBear
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KingofSpain wrote:
Edgbaston is quite a soul-less place to watch championship cricket. It's probably a better experience in the members area but that's not very inclusive for the ordinary fan.
I love outgrounds, they have more character and it feels like more of an occasion. I really wish the club would invest in a cricket festival in Warwickshire rather than being wedded to play everything in Birmingham. Gary Barwell needs a break too!
Yep there are loads of suitable venues on our county with lots of room and facilities.
It’s simply about overcoming the Edgbaston and Birmingham obsession. Portland Road hasn’t helped that!
Time to remember who we actually represent!
Exiled Bear wrote:
Highveld wrote:
One the subject of outgrounds, Rugby School has zero facilities for spectators, Nuneaton has even less facilities, the outfield at Stratford is not fit for first class or list a cricket and facilities and Cov & NW are not good.
Sadly there isn't a club, or school ground in the county that would be suitable to host a first class or list a game.
Maybe the club should invest some money in bringing one of them up to scratch
It’s also clearly not true. Both Griff and Cov had huge social clubs in addition to the pavilions. More facilities than Edgbaston has for county matches
There are always loads of risible excuses rolled out for why we don’t take games around the county. Basically the club and a few members don’t want to play outside Birmingham!
Andy wrote:
Is it only points deduction worthy if its considered dangerous? I'm not sure.
In 2019
Following an investigation Somerset were charged with a breach of the regulation which requires that: “Each county shall actively seek to prepare the best quality cricket pitch that it can for the match that it is staging.”
Somerset accepted a pitch rating of “poor” was correct but pleaded not guilty to a second element of the charge that the Taunton surface “was not the best quality pitch that Somerset was able to prepare for the match”.
Exiled Bear wrote:
This surely isn’t points deduction-worthy, given what some other grounds have got away with in the past. Not good though
Not at this stage. But say we bowl them out for 70 now with Hannon Dalby having a stormer. What would they do if 20 wickets fall in one day? That's why I think its Catch 22.
Can't disagree.
What an opportunity this would have been to have played the game around the county with a decent crowd!
If we bowl our way back into it we are likely to be docked points - Catch 22.
Needs better planning - but Nuneaton, Stratford, Kenilworth, Cov and North Warwicks, Rugby would all do the job and actually fulfil the function the Club is supposed to (its in the constitution) to take games around the County.
Unfortunately we've become too short sighted and obsessed with Edgbaston including branding.
And Stratford certainly didn't cost a fortune because controversially it was underwritten by the Warwickshire taxpayer.
In the days when Griff and Coton held an annual fixture it always had Warwickshire's highest attendance of the season - which used to be listed in the Annual Report.
If they have to reserve wickets for the Hundred why on earth didn't they plan ahead and use an outground?
Especially during the school holidays.
Unfortunately we seem Edgbaston obsessed these days!
A good game to win from here!
Really don’t see why we can’t go on and win it now
Surrey on the decline
Essex benefitting from kookaburra.
Hopefully Miles and Norwell on the way back.
We may need a signing next week but we look strong!
why do we always have trouble with 9th and 10th wickets?
so frustrating
Anybody have any recollection of whether MJK was involved in a similar controversy against South Africans In Johannesburg in 1965? With the appeal withdrawn?
Unfortunately people on both sides of the debate trying to fight their culture wars via cricket.
If you look at things logically commercial interests have been far more of a threat to the game and linked to the findings in this report than people who watch cricket.
It’s commercialism that has ostracised WCCC from its members as has happened with other counties. It’s commercialism which drove the ECB to take cricket away from free to air and to cannibalise the game via the Hundred. Commercialism which made Board members forget why WCCC exists and who it represents. Literally no one on the current board represents our clubs best interests. The non exec Board members will pay lip service to the reports findings whilst patronising members never realising for a minute that their ideology of chasing sponsorship and pounds and ripping out heritage has created this situation.
Please don’t name call fellow cricket watchers but call out the real cause of the issues in the game!
Whenever it’s anything fluffy or exciting it’s “Edgbaston” or “the Bears” - as soon as it’s a tricky subject and the back foot we revert to Warwickshire County Cricket Club!
Unfortunately currently I think members are an irritation they know they can’t do away with because of the constitution.
They would much rather members be season ticket holders.
It’s one of the reasons they talk about Edgbaston as a brand all the time because there are no members of Edgbaston.
I definitely think flexing the muscles with the SGM last season was a good thing and keeps them on their toes. Ultimately we may have to say the Members’ Committee is a pointless sop and we want full accountability from the Board to all the members!
Unfortunately we have a governance problem.
The current powers that be don’t understand the club’s history, don’t understand the geographical area it represents and don’t understand the Club is still a members’s Club.
They seem to think they run a distinct entity called Edgbaston and that local “stakeholders” are the community living around the ground and surrounding area.
There are still nice people involved but having had a lengthy chat with a senior non exec at the weekend and with previous chair as well as current directors they just don’t get WCCC and have no interest in doing so.
It’s extraordinary the CEO doesn’t see a potential conflict of interest coming with being a Director of the Birmingham Phoenix.
Scary times!
I had to look on here to see what was going on.
A couple of early wickets for the paceman as well.
Is OHD not fit? Will Norwell ever be fit?
I had to look on here to see what was going on.
A couple of early wickets for the paceman as well.
Is OHD not fit? Will Norwell ever be fit?
GerryShedd wrote:
It's probably not worth arguing about what happened 140 years ago, especially not on a sunny Sunday. But Duckworth, rightly or wrongly, paints a picture of the Warwickshire element as being a bunch of disorganised toffs and Ansell being the guy who pulled it all together.
Anyway, maybe it was a Warwickshire gentleman (and an Old Boy of my school) who came closest to the truth when he wrote:
"What's in a name? A bear by any other name would roar as loud."
(Or maybe that wasn't quite what he said - but that was the sentiment.)
I’d definitely agree with that version. We were a nomadic side and we’re starting to look at an HQ and Rugby and Leamington were looked at.
Ansell was definitely the organising genius (a pity he’s lost his stand at Edgbaston btw) but Birmingham was v much part of Warwickshire so all concerned we’re meeting to come together and act for the good of the county.