What do you make of that? Taz bowled a full allocation and quite well, so you'd presume he will play Blast opener. Gilchrist and OHD also played and contributed. Are they expected to start? I know Dicky Gleeson is IPL but I wonder re Garton...

What rather obscures things with England is they don't pick England prospects on outputs. They pick on a load of intangible things like youth, potential, playing roles, leadership. In a word: #Vibes. Gets even more intangible when you think about the likes of Zak Crawley.

On outcomes, Mousley definitely isn't there. Neither was Bethell and he then got his first three top-flight centuries playing for England. Not saying Dan has the same potential, but I think England have identified something in him. Otherwise they wouldn't be picking him - even for the Lions.

Be interesting to find out what England's thoughts are re Mousley. I think it is fair to say he isn't expected to be an England test player so maybe the four day game is just for his leadership potential. Must be seen as a prospect for White Ball though and I think he fits in both senior squads, so you'd expect he is named in the limited overs Lions squads. Up until now (and still, maybe) I'd been supportive of our players in the Lions squads as it does elevate them and expose them to coaching and development higher up the pyramid. If he misses a whole block of the Blast for this, however, might reconsider that...

This is sad news. As UrsaMinor says, he did have a good innings and I was surprised just how long it was, never realised he was playing as early as the late 1950s. My best memory, inevitably given I am in my 40s, was when I was at a county game when was a spotty and awkward student and he was roaming around the members stands as President or CEO or other exalted position. He stopped for a decent enough chat and the "inclusive feel" the Guardian mentions about his leadership style was very evident in the way he listened for my opinions, limited that they were. Go well, MJK.

I'm confused as to whether those extra wickets this morning have helped us or not. We don't really want to have to bat out masses of overs do we? Perhaps not being economical while not overly threatening is the key to this pair in at the moment. I still think they have enough runs to be safe - but not sure we have short enough time to be assured of safety either.

No it isn't and no he hasn't.

A certain Andrew Hignell, Alastair has Multiple Sclerosis rather than Motor Neurone.

As you were!

Tayls79 wrote:

So the most interesting thing on that scorecard isn't so much our team (which we pretty much already knew) but the Glammy scorer AK Hignell. COuld that be Alistair Hignell the dual rugby and cricket pro? I think he had motor neurone disease, great if it is still him that he is still doing something.

So the most interesting thing on that scorecard isn't so much our team (which we pretty much already knew) but the Glammy scorer AK Hignell. COuld that be Alistair Hignell the dual rugby and cricket pro? I think he had motor neurone disease, great if it is still him that he is still doing something.

Jamie Smith at three would make sense, Rew has to keep there though, can't have a test keeper batting at three. Whether England make this much change though, I don't know. You never know with the current management.

The more you think about this the less it makes sense for Bethell to play the NZ test series. Not so much on the resting basis, he's only played half an IPL and hasn't batted long, but on the unclear prioritisation and the fact he hasn't played a red ball game since the Sydney test in January. If you look at the fixtures, there are three England tests v NZ in June, then it is straight into England white ball in July. There is space for one CC match in June, but it's so close against the test I can't see him playing in that red-ball game. Surely it makes sense for Bethell to sit out the NZ test series, concentrate on playing in the blast, then go into the the July England white ball games?

When the Pakistan test series comes up later in the year, he surely will have had time to prepare for tests. Overall, I just don't get any sense of a plan from England about what he does. I can understand it if he prioritises white ball, or prioritises it during parts of the year - but he can't be expected to perform in a test series against NZ (and he will be tested and expected to do well) with the preparation he's done. As Mikkyk says, there just seems a bit more thought going on about how Archer is prepared and prioritising. Bethell is still young and probably doesn't know what's best for himself, he needs advising and having decisions made for him

I mentioned it up this feed probably a year back, it's still unclear what Bethell is going to to specialise in in the game. And given the demands of cricket now prioristisation does need to happen at least some of the time.

... is in the test squad for Englands first squad, looks certain to play as either #3 or as opener.

Not sure how much time there is between the end of his involvement in IPL and this opening test but doesn't seem ideal preparation.

Are the selectors taking the approach that he just finds his way in tests and will have a good run eventually, a la Crawley, and the real focus is white ball, or is this just negligence? Does seem to be the epitome of the BazBall era though. And I hate that term.

I don't think they've been inconsistent. But they have been less than perfect and I think that's fine. We all know what the imperfect parts are and you can generally carry these over the season. I think the only squads that are stronger than us are Notts and Surrey and we need to compete well against Somerset so table is good for us. Most important that all the players keep working and getting more confident as that has been an issue in the past. Coming back from setbacks is good evidence of improving confidence and overcoming inconsistency.

On the whole I think this was OK, all div 1 games were draws and we got max bonus points so we strengthened our position. I admire the intent in going for the win by enforcing the follow on, just couldn't finish it off. Not being able to finish a side off is a familiar story but being aggressive going for the win is actually a welcome development from the not-to-distant past. It's getting better I would say...

So 85 runs in 24 overs this morning, almost exactly the 3.5 rpo they have scored the entire match. I don't think they will want to set us anything but it isn't that far away from that being the only outcome from this match that isn't a draw...

Have seen none of today so can't really comment on play. Seems from the card though by enforcing the follow on made it a more complex route to win. Seems to be a case now of get the last six wickets in 30 overs or less and then chase no more than 250 of 60 to a little over in overs. Does still leave Notts a chance.

I can't say I normally follow 2nd team results but was looking at this, mainly to see where Kai, Taz and Che are stacking up. Looks a very interesting game, I don't really know any of the Essex players but it seems a stronger bears side and Jani seems the difference between the two teams.

Yeah, it was good to see bowl a side out in timely fashion, albeit on a helpful surface. I watched a fair chunk of Sunday and a little midday Monday and seemed some of the middle order batting looked quite assured (Malik, Webster in the main). Attack looked a bit more orderly. We always talk about the two weak spots in the side, no real need to moan about it, but it seems the bowling is moving in the right direction. A sensible rotation for the next side could well be Woakes, Barker, Booth and Bamber alongside the Beau and Barn. That looks a bit more balanced and incisive. Ali and Che are getting through some work in the seconds, I'd hope they're being prepared for a run in the side as well.

Right. He needs to be a five or a six in order to not be a luxury. A non-keeping 7 just ends up with Davies keeping and getting knackered again which is no good for anyone. Despite the fact it's what's happening in this very game.

Andy wrote:

I remember Burgess standing out as being really untidy when he first came. Kai is not only that but he's actually dropping catches as well. Having said that Burgess improved so much it was scarcely believeable, he could actually affect the game from behind the stumps, brilliant keeper. Kai can improve, I reckon he will, he has too if he's gonna keep regularly, lets be honest. Re. his batting, he looked like a white ball batter playing red ball last season to me, however this season he looks far more assured outside his off stump and is developing a back foot game that he didnt really have last year. Can he bat in the top 5/6? We'll see.

Yeah I've seen one of the drops this year and agree. I don't know enough about wicketkeeping to be sure of this but he does look slightly unnatural, jerky movements, etc. Fails the test about not noticing the best keepers. Because you notice it.

I'm not really in denial about this, just genuinely hope these things are improvable and I think they are. A late career Burgess or Alec Stewart always looked like they had learned the skills but were proficient. I think his batting records are probably slightly ahead of where Mousley was at this stage of his career so could go bat only, but that would probably be a luxury, his tempo, shot selection et al is just like a counterpunching number 7 in the mould of Prior, Gilchrist or Bevan.

Andy wrote:

Clearly a bad toss to lose, the most perfect bowling conditions we've seen for a while at Edgbaston. As has already been acknowledged this pitch will likely flatten out and slow right up on days 3 and 4.

Team selections probably about right, Woakes was never gonna play every game in this block, thought he bowled v Surrey but when he took that 2nd new ball v Sussex on Monday morning he did look jaded...he'll be back.

Kai Smith has made even further improvements with the bat this year particularly from a technical point of view but his glovework, and I appreciate this won't go down well here, remains way off im afraid. He too will be back though.

Pleased to see Zen's form for the 2's rewarded.

Just a bit of a laugh - and it does make sense to use him as a fielder. Whether the club wants to be seen as producing this mirth, however, is conjecture. I had genuinely forgot he was with Warwickshire and think it's a bit of a shame he hasn't kicked on in other formats. He's brisker than the mean average of our right-arm seam cohort, a lefty and a good fielder. Would really fit into the four-day side if he wanted or was able to do it.

Also good banter re his mum / mom negotiating his contract to this regard.

KingofSpain wrote:

Garton pretending to be a red ball cricketer for one game a season so he can go home for the weekend is an absolute joke.

Yeah I just saw too. I remember the commentators made the point last year he uaed the trip to see friends and family and check up on his flat or something. And he was a good fielder so helpful as a sub.

Having said that, a quick left armer would help the variety of the seam attack. Can't see him playing seeing as there were two otber southpaws in the second team game that finished today that weren't him.

It could have been worse. According to BBC, we're second with 16 points, big haul for a draw against a strong side. Interestingly I see BBC has Sussex on 10pts despite their win. Are they carrying a points deduction from last season? I didn't see enough to conclusively assess it but thought the bowlers all brought something different, despite the fact it was six right arm seamers below express pace. I too think there will be one change for Sussex, though I guess they assess pitch before deciding if it's a spinner or not.