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I see they stuck with Booth - and he went some way to justifying that decision, with 1 for 21 off 4.

https://edgbaston.com/fixtures/first-xi/worcestershire-rapids-vs-warwickshire-13-august-2023/#match-match-previews

Here's the squad for the Pears.

You're right GS, Johal is in. I reckon either he or Garrett will be in for Booth - he did get rather caned in Neath.

GerryShedd wrote:

Johal and Garrett in the squad:
https://edgbaston.com/fixtures/first-xi/glamorgan-vs-warwickshire-10-august-2023/#match-match-previews

Can't see Johal there.

Edit: Ah, just realised that's the squad for Glamorgan!

Bald_Reynard wrote:

Highveld wrote:

ECB regulations state that games should be played within the county, or at a venue with established links.

Kidderminster and Stourbridge are both in Worcestershire, so are not viable options, likewise I can't see Derbyshire agreeing to Warwickshire use their ground in Derby.

The only ground in Worcestershire that Warwickshire could legitimately use would be Barnt Green, which is a wonderful club ground, one of my favourites, and has an excellent wicket, however it does not have the facilities needed to host a first class or list A game.

The rule that a County has to have "established links", to move to a ground outside the County, clearly allows for us to have games in Staffordshire. We have a very close development relationship with Staffs. There must be loads of good quality grounds in the Black Country, or elsewhere. Staffs MC play in Stoke and Stone, I know Wolverhampton, Walsall and West Bromwich (Dartmouth) used to have great facilities - but its been many years since I've been, so don't know what they're like now. Thoughts?

This season Staffs NCCCA team has played at West Brom Dartmouth, Himley and Smethwick in the Black Country. Dartmouth is an ideal venue for the Bears. Great wicket, wonderful spectator & clubhouse facilities and a large captive, cricket loving 'audience' on the doorstep - and literally a mile from the Birmingham boundary! What caps it all, is the facilities there are so good, they've been chosen to host the NCCA Championship Final, in September.

WBD IS the obvious candidate for any Outground game.

The_Lickey_Banker wrote:

Little chance of any play today, but the squad looks interesting.

I guess there will 7 or 8 of those, who will guarantee to be in the first Metro Bank game, but the remaining 3 or 4 will be difficult to predict. I'd like to see Michael Booth given a run out, a promising South African (English qualified) All Rounder who has played First Class cricket for KwaZulu / Natal and Durham UCCE.

My XI for the early 50 over games would be:-
Yates
Rhodes
Ethan Brookes
Barnard
Booth / Hamza Shaikh
Burgess
Lintott
Miles
Norwell
Johal
OHD

A decent seam attack, but Lintott and Yates will have a lot of spin bowling to do.

KingofSpain wrote:

No sign of Burgess or OHD so presume they are being rested. We are also lacking a quality overseas player, without one I cannot see us making waves in this competition.

If you add Burgess & OHD to the 13 in the squad for Wales, I think we'll have a decent 50 overs team, though not great. Hopefully, we might have a couple back later in the Tournament, with the new Undead rule, allowing non playing players to be released (with some conditions). It's likely Henry B and Bethell will be back, possibly Mousley and Benjamin.

Little chance of any play today, but the squad looks interesting.

I guess there will 7 or 8 of those, who will guarantee to be in the first Metro Bank game, but the remaining 3 or 4 will be difficult to predict. I'd like to see Michael Booth given a run out, a promising South African (English qualified) All Rounder who has played First Class cricket for KwaZulu / Natal and Durham UCCE.

BristolBear wrote:

I think the glaring issue is that we have only played one overseas at a time. And as much as I liked Ali, Maxwell and Hamza, and they did an ok job. None has blown sides away.
Surrey have played 3 at times this year (2 technically by the rules). But they’ve been able to play Worrall plus 2 of Abbot, Latham & Roach at various times this year.
Lancashire have been able to play 2 of Mitchell, Williams and Villas. Hampshire with Abbot and Abbas. Essex with Harmer and Bracewell. Even Kent have Singh and Stewart.

Even those that have only played 1, their contribution as a difference maker has been better, look at Henry for Somerset.

It’s definitely tougher to get a top batting overseas, but if other teams have been able to recruit a Latham or a Pujara, you’ve got to think we’d be able to get one too. But needs to be top quality, not another Pieter Malan.

Awkwardly though, if you were to bring in an overseas batsman, the person whose place would be most at risk is Will Rhodes.
But a team of say:
Yates
Davies
Latham/Pujara/A.N Other
Hain
Mousley
Barnard
Burgess
Briggs
Ali/A.N Other
Rushworth/Brookes
OHD/Norwell

Would be a real tough proposition for any side. Also don’t think we can underestimate how good Norwell is at this level, and we’ve recruited like he’s going to play. But I think we need to accept that’s not the case and perhaps take a similar approach as Surrey with our bowlers. Stockpile and rotate. As we’ve often been left with an attack that doesn’t have that real point of difference that Norwell offers.

Norwell played for the 2nds earlier in the week and will be available for the 50 Over games. PERHAPS he'll be back for the remaining CC matches.

Highveld wrote:

"Academy All Rounder, Isaac Mohammed, who scored a double century earlier in the week, for Warwickshire Under 18's, is in the SACA team."

That may not be the case as he bowled 6 overs for the U18's in Abergavenny this morning.

The County Under 18's game he got the double century was at the weekend.

An I Mohammed got 141 NO today for SACA against our 2nds. I assumed it was Isaac. Perhaps not.

Norwell back playing - for the 2nds today in a 50 Over game.

Toss uncontested, we're in the field and LN has opened the bowling, with a fit again Miles.

Team:-
Amir Khan
Ethan Brookes
Kai Smith
Chris Benjamin (Captain & Keeper)
Michael Booth
Jake Lintott
Craig Miles
Liam Norwell
Manraj Johal
Theo Wylie
Che Simmons

Academy All Rounder, Isaac Mohammed, who scored a double century earlier in the week, for Warwickshire Under 18's, is in the SACA team.

George isn't doing much better for Kent. 12 overs, 0 for 53, so far.

We bowled Northants out for 237. Yadvinder Singh (Moseley CC) took 4 for 40 (off 17.4), Johal, 3 for 46 (off 17) and a wicket apiece for Croom & Briggs (just in the bowling lineup).

Ethan Brookes & Lintott (not bowling) opening the batting. Remaining lineup:-
Kai Smith
Benjamin (Captain & Keeper)
Bethell
Daniyal Khan
Yusuf Khalil
Miles
Johal
Simmons
Josh Croom.

Ethan B on 48NO, when rain came (we're on 113 for 2). Jake and Kai both out in the 20's

And is MHN Saleem, the Afghan International Fast bowler?

Does anyone know if SJD Bell, is Solomon Bell, the ex-Durham batsman?

Those well known spin twins - Mousley & Moeen!!

Just as we were slagging off Moeen for his batting, his bowling turns the cards - 3 for 14 at the moment!

meashambear wrote:

I am pretty lost for words tbh

5 down and 9 overs to go and Benjamin tries to sweep for 6 and gets caught, a few balls after Mousley tries a ridiculous shot in front of his stumps.

We desperately need to drop Benjamin.

meashambear wrote:

meashambear wrote:

And now Davies out with a ridiculous shot

What the hell are these batsmen thinking?

You would think that Moeen & Maxwell have something to do with this.

Two of the most sought after T20 players on the planet and both have been completely abject

Yep, the consequences of being 'parachuted' into an English season so soon after the IPL - with no practice or acclimatision.

meashambear wrote:

Moeen poor again. Terrible choice of shot. He seems to think that he can just whack everything into the stands with little respect for the pace, line or length of the delivery, or the bowler.

That is 4 failures with the bat now at a strike rate of around 100. Anyone else would expect to be dropped.

Well, he won't be playing again in the T20 this season - sorted!

Exiled Bear wrote:

The_Lickey_Banker wrote:

Yates and Hasan are back in tonight - for Woakes and Brookes.

It’s Barnard who is in for one of them - Yates played the last match.

Oh yes, silly me!