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I am happy with a draw at this stage, 320 just to avoid the follow-on, you can imagine Bairstow chirping his head off here, he did it at Edgbaston even when we were piling up 500+.

Strange how Bamber has bowled more than anyone but his 100 is already up. Looks like we will facing a big total when we come to bat.

Yes, granted that you have to bowl well. I think that when some sides win the toss and bowl, they search for wickets rather than just bowl as they were always taught and put together with Yorkshire's determination to not play like they did at Edgbaston, we are looking poor. Bairstow said during the week that they were still hurting from their visit to Edgbaston and wanted to really put on a good performance here.

At this time, with the weather like it is, I think most sides want a bowl. In fact, every side winning the toss has bowled this morning.

I always thought that he never got into the England side because of his batting, the same reason they dropped Bob Taylor in 1981 and replaced him with Alan Knott because Gooch, Boycott, Brearley and Gower were not making runs up the order so you blame your 'keeper. I thought he was better than Russell who was picked as much on his eccentricity as his keeping and even when Stewart took over from Russell, he was equally as good as him but where Piper was better was that he took catches that some 'keepers wouldn't have got a glove to. Just because Piper didn't play international cricket, didn't stop him being world-class, a blinding catch is still a blinding catch whether it's at a Test or in a CC game.

Still nothing on the BBC site which hasn't changed since the Stokes incident.

Strangely, I cannot see anything online about Keith Piper passing away. Where has this come from and why is it not on the BBC Cricket site.

Bloody hell. What a shock, not sure what he has been doing all these years but that is shocking. Outside of Tests, the best keeper I have seen by a mile. Alan Donald really rated him and said he was a real inspiration behind the stumps, getting up the noses of opposition and taking catches that most keepers wouldn't get near.

Yes, Roebuck and his ways of giving some of the boys he was coaching, a 'Punishment' if they weren't achieving their potential, was rather strange. I remember Richards saying "Write anything about me and I will whack you..." to James Lawton after Richards antics of having all West Indies umpires in his pocket and getting them to change decisions when he came marching down the pitch with his hands on his hips, staring them out until they agreed with him. Like most narcissistic people, he was happy to get away with his behaviour but if anyone challenged it, he was an aggressive thug.

There was also the less glamorous side to having Botham Richards and Garner. Not so sure about Garner but at the time the 2 overseas players were released by Somerset (Which is why Botham left), there were loads of complaints from some of the players about the treatment by Botham and Richards of some of the younger players being openly criticised especially young bowlers who heard the remarks coming from the slips. They were visibly upset at having to hear how awful their bowling was from 2 cricketers who should have known better. We all know Botham has never been well behaved and the stories about Richards marching into opposition changing rooms and threatening journalists are also well documented. I know that Somerset were a happier team when they left though less successful but just don't remind them that they have never won the title.

Gerryshed, how dare you. 'Normal' , I have never been so insulted in my life to be called such a challenging description. I am mad and proud of it. I remember one time (True Event) this woman said to me, "No point in being mad unless you show it" and I said to her, "Yeah, thanks Mum".

Great chase but apart from scraping a 'Best 3rd place' finish, I can't see us progressing even if we win all the other games we have left.

Does it make any difference who we pick or where they bat. We will lose a lot of money in the later home games if we can't qualify and they become meaningless, people just won't turn up and the crowds have been awful anyway.

I think these Lions games are a waste of time. I think county games in any format produce more intense cricket.

Take Lynn out of their side and I don't think they have much batting but we fed them too many runs with short rubbish too often. A few tighter overs early on and we might have had enough to win.

Our last over was disappointing and I did wonder at the time if 208 was enough but even if we got another 10, it doesn't mean we would have won as exactly the same thing can't happen if the circumstances change. But, that was defendable but the 'Powerplay' was awful, too many short balls and it continued into the 12 before we appeared to bring it back slightly. I cannot see the point of bowling it halfway down the pitch, full balls proved to be difficult to hit and so our best batting was followed by our worst bowling. What to do, is it too late, try Gilchrist and Bamber or change the name back to 'Birmingham Bears'. Just a thought, some bloke called Lintott took 4-1-19-3 today v Surrey, just saying.

No reason we can't win. I have always thought that the reason why so many sides from the 2nd division of the CC have won this T20 is because the shorter the format the more it even's things up. Better sides win long format cricket and if you had a 5-over per side competition, even a side depleted by injury could win it. No need to fear Northants, in short-formats, it only takes 2 players to suddenly find form and it all changes. COYB.

Fancy batting badly against this pile of ****, how many of their team would you say were better than most of ours.

A lot has been said about Hain not scoring quickly enough and just when he starts to look like he is 'Going For It', he has a rush of blood to the head.

New Road is notorious for having little pace and sometimes 2 spinners can work. I remember in the 1980's they had Illingworth and Leatherdale and loads of those horrible 'Nibbly' bowlers with no pace and often used to win with crappy scores on the board batting first.